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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jul 5, 2004 7:34am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's "Farenheit 911?"

Recently, I saw the movie that Bush's administration did not want tthe public to see.
Overall, I believe any person of legal voting age should see this film before voting. Although Micheal Moore is known for his criticism of the Bush administration, he proves several of his points in this film by using direct comments from the president and his staff. As a bonus the viewer is also subjected to previous news coverage of the events surrounding Bush's presidency including how he stole the election.

Now I realize some will disagree Moore's reason for making the film (since their are many Republicans and Green Party supporters on this sight); however, the facts of this film speak for themselves.

After viewing it, you too may realize why Disney did not want the film to be published.

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Poster: bushisnumberone Date: Nov 4, 2004 2:56am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

Read this essay. 59 lies Michael Moore tells in his movie.

Attachment: 59Deceits.pdf

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Poster: skinnytoby Date: Jul 19, 2004 6:09pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

everything was bull. this guy took whatever he needed to sell his story and did so. if the terrorists belonged to canada, italy, poland, etc., moore would have pointed out bush's ties to those countries and not mentioned the others. he points out how one name was crossed out of the military records, but what about the other names that were crossed out? every name in those records were crossed out except for bush's, because thats the name that was in question. he shows film of peacefresno eating cookies and laughing, trying to portray them as innocent victims of FBI investigations. terrorists don't laugh and eat cookies? what, do you need them to be juggling grenades with guns and explosives around for questions to be raised? and the old man after the gym is now a poilitical expert picked on by the government? tell the whole story you jackfruit!! lets go back to the beginning. when bush first learned about the attacks when he was in the elementary school. planes were hijacked, and all flights, private and commercial, were halted. what is our president supposed to do, 'run' back to the capital? maybe moore would have rather had our president leave the classroom and stand outside with his thumb up his ass. and by the way, if i wanted to find news stories to persuade the public of anything, i can find and manipulate as many news reports as i needed. i could show that a llama was behind the whole thing.

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Poster: skinnytoby Date: Jul 19, 2004 6:42pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

one more thing. darrell wright, are all news reports correct? they never misreport the news?

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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jul 24, 2004 7:24am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

skinnytoby,

Have you even seen the movie or are you trying to make yourself look like a jackass?

I did not see anything in your statement that resembled anything I saw in the film.

For starters the only time in the film that the Arabs were shown they were talking to former President Bush Sr. and they were not eating cookies.

I also noticed that you stated that you did not think it was possible for the terrorists to come from Canada. You might be right but do you have any proof on where they came from?

Further more, you commented that you did not like Moore's portrayal of President Bush Jr. waiting around the elementary school when he heard that the hijackers were attacking the World Trade Center. I realize that your argument about these issues may have made some sense to you; however, when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor in World War 2, Roosevelt wasted no time in declaring War on Japan. It took Bush over a month to declare war on Afghanistan. Second of all no Japanese citizen was allowed to leave the country during World War 2, so why were Saudi's allowed to leave after the World Trade Center attack?

The main purpose of this Question is to get direct answers about what President Bush could have done differently to have prevented the 911 tragedy. Also I would like to know what makes Bush such a good candidate for re-election, because this film shows a lot of negative energy towards Bush's policies.

Until someone can prove this film is filled with lies, my vote will automatically go to Kerry/Edwards.

Furthermore, I would like to see if someone will actually be rewarded $10,000 from Moore if he or she can prove that his film is falacious.

This post was modified by Darrell Wright on 2004-07-24 14:24:48

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Poster: tom w. Date: Jul 24, 2004 3:13pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

regardless of ones opinion concerning moore's portrayal of bush, he must be commended as a film maker for providing a voice to the left's platform. the right clearly has a long history in this feild and diversity shoud be encouraged

i dont see much ground for the "it's all lies" claim. the film on a whole is fact-based. the comment was made earlier that the news reel is the primary source of the film's footage. bias is inevitable when documenting anything, for all reporters, historians and filmmakers make a decision that some facts are important and should be included, while some are not and should be omitted. the question we should be asking ourselves is not are these facts or lies, but which facts are important to us personally and to this country.
whether or not you think bush meant to say "im a war-time president" when he said "im a war president", it is our decision as to how much importance is given here. a fruedian slip? i say yes. a relatively important statement? no

there is one particular issue which moore misstates, though i do not think it was an outright lie. the film states that while all nonmilitary flights were suspended for the few days following 9/11 the numerous relatives of bin laden were flown out of the country, alluding to preferencial treatment. (moore had written a widely published article on this subject prior to the movie) the fact is that commercial air traffic had resumed by the time of the bin laden flights. the 9/11 commision and other sources have stated this. while this does not resolve the issue of the bush/bin laden connection, it discredits moore's statement.

the importance of this political movie is clear given the record attendence during an election year. his sarcasm and silly comparisons tend to weaken the seriousness of his documentary, but i dont see theaters packed during ken burns' films. i dont even think the theaters play them.



This post was modified by tom w. on 2004-07-24 22:13:28

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Poster: cashel Date: Jul 28, 2004 3:13pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

thanks for your reply to my post( re schools )

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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jul 30, 2004 8:01am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

tom,
appreciate your response to the question. I can finally say that I am not the only one that feels this way about this film.

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Poster: Rickskarbo Date: Aug 29, 2004 2:27pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

My absolute opinion of this movie was very troublesome.1)any one with 1/2 a brain knows that Micheal M. is a "Bush hater"so to think he is going to be objective and honest has to be a fool.
2)What really motivated him to make this movie is ..he knew he would have alot of people who would pay $10 to see this hack job and guess what Micheal M.goes straight to the bank.Guess what M.M. has not so far given one red cent to the DNC.Public records verify this as a fact.
Also,M.M. knows he could preach to a certain part of the population and he could "cut and Paste anything" and the Kool Aid drinkers in his party would beleive anything he put on the screen..and that is just a fact.I have been amazed how naive and immature these followers are..it is a shame.I was a follower of this party for years and I left because the party made no sense/ no logic..they never discuss the facts,just a emotional rant of alot of nothing.I could not be in a party that embrassed the likes of Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton,Al Franken,Micheal Moore...the beat goes on with that crap.This party is morally bankrupt so I left and will never be back.

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Poster: someoneelse Date: Aug 29, 2004 4:28pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

"Guess what M.M. has not so far given one red cent to the DNC." He clearly states in this film that he is an independent (non-affiliated).

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Poster: glenn Date: Aug 30, 2004 1:57pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

I'm a Bush Hater too, but I don't see the appeal of his lodge brother John Kerry either.

I'm voting Green, if there were ever a time that voting Green would NOT be a wasted vote, that time is now.

In my opinion, Bush and Kerry are no more different than ham and canadian bacon.

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Poster: stober Date: Jul 19, 2004 10:23pm
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

Overall this makes Bush look like a jackass.But lets face it.He has been a jackass from day one.No real brains at all.Or balls even

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Poster: PoochEDM Date: Jul 5, 2004 9:15am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

That film is so full of outright lies and misrepresentations that if there are any truths at all, they are questionable.

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Poster: Darrell Wright Date: Jul 9, 2004 9:24am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

Pooch, you claim the film is filled with lies; however, you have not stated where. The main reason I gave this post was for people to explain how this film is filled with truth or lies.

Let's suppose you have seen the film. You can then realize that the film contains app. 75% news footage and 25% Micheal Moore comments.

So who is the liar, ABC, CBS, Fox, or NBC?

This post was modified by Darrell Wright on 2004-07-09 16:24:23

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Poster: SFSpearit Date: Jul 5, 2004 9:57am
Forum: election_2004 Subject: Re: What is your opinion of Micheal Moore's 'Farenheit 911?'

NAME ONE
Go ahead.

Michael may put in some of his opinons but they are all based on facts. He has a $10,000 reward for any fact you can disprove. Go for it.

This movie asks questions that we as voters must answer. If you are confortible believing that everything in the movie is a lie, then you need to watch it again and start looking some stuff up. There is more than enough here to make anyone question Mr Bush.